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In thinking about how you might work at this understanding of "public" as compared to polling, one unstated element--is it huge?--is that polling is an elaborate industry, with economic contingencies galore. Your approach may be the best possible, but who would buy it if you were selling?

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I think this quite overstates the case that Ganz was making. His critique applies really to issue polling. And that's not new-- we've long known that issue polling is prone to all kinds of errors, most of which Ganz identifies. It's not exceptionally difficult to massage poll questions to get the results that the poll takers want. And once people see policies in action, their preferences are certainly likely to change. But even issue polling has plenty of uses, for those interested in gaining insight rather than pumping out propaganda. For instance, ask people about the state of the economy a year ago, and people would say that it was bad. But ask about their personal financial situation or the state of their local economies, and they would say that both were quite good. That says something very different than the same polling from, say, 2009, which would have uniformly told us that people thought that the economy was bad, and their personal finances were bad, and the local economy was bad. And that really matters for policymaking. That's one thing.

The other is that polling regarding people's intentions is quite good. Is it perfect? Of course not. But it's generally directionally pretty good. Is it perfect? Of course not. There are sampling errors, people change their minds, people lie, etc. But simple political polling has generally done quite well. Even its alleged failures are mostly a media creation. Take the archetypal "failure"-- the 2016 presidential election. People acted stunned that Trump won, and declared that polling was useless. Reality is... the national polling was pretty good, as it always is. But those that were stunned by the result were those that relied on vibes, not an understanding of the polling. Nate Silver's aggregator is a good window into what the broad polling was saying. That aggregator put Clinton's chances of winning that election at 72% on election eve. Yes, 72% is a lot. But what that means is that no one should be stunned that something that is expected to happen 72% of the time doesn't happen. That's about 5% more likely than a given NBA player missing a free throw. And while NBA players make most of their free throws, they also miss a lot of free throws. The media acted as if that result was the equivalent of missing an open dunk. And high quality internal polling from the campaigns was apparently even closer than that.

Now, the fact that elections are one-off events and basketball free throws are repeatable makes election polling much less useful-- but it's a huge stretch to say that the polling doesn't serve any purpose. Rather, what's broken isn't polling-- it's the rhetoric around it and how people think about it.

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